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Apple Files New Evidence Alleging OpenAI Used Its Circuit Schematic

Apple wants quicker access to devices and records, arguing that its newly submitted material shows confidential information may still be in use. OpenAI is seeking dismissal, leaving the court to weigh the immediate discovery request before the underlying allegations are decided.

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Apple Files New Evidence Alleging OpenAI Used Its Circuit Schematic
Apple Files New Evidence Alleging OpenAI Used Its Circuit Schematic

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Apple is asking a federal judge for faster access to devices and records, after submitting new evidence that it says links former engineer Chang Liu to the use of a confidential circuit schematic in OpenAI work. Apple alleges Liu downloaded the schematic in March, after leaving the company, and used it with LTspice, an electrical-engineering simulation tool, to support power-conversion development. The filing says he also trained an AI agent to run simulations, inspect the results, and tune a compensation parameter. Apple’s broader lawsuit targets Liu and former Apple executive Tang Tan, accusing them of using Apple data after joining OpenAI. The allegations have not been resolved. Apple is seeking access to a retained Mac mini and other devices, arguing that the Mac mini synchronized with Liu’s recovered MacBook and could contain relevant evidence. Apple also alleges Liu asked a colleague to destroy evidence after learning about the company’s investigation; Apple says the colleague agreed, while OpenAI calls the allegations meritless and is asking the court to dismiss the case. Apple wants an injunction that would bar OpenAI from using its trade secrets and could affect hardware development, including work on a rumored screenless AI device. The immediate question is whether the court will grant expedited discovery before deciding the underlying claims. Arguments are scheduled for October, before Judge Edward J. Davila.

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Apple’s August 31 filing seeks faster access to devices and an injunction against OpenAI, arguing that former engineer Chang Liu’s alleged use of a March-downloaded circuit schematic shows Apple trade secrets may remain in active development. Apple says Liu used LTspice and an AI agent to automate electrical-analysis work, then allegedly sought evidence destruction after an internal investigation began. OpenAI...

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    Apple wants access to a retained Mac mini and other devices, saying the Mac mini synced with Liu’s recovered MacBook.

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    The alleged workflow used LTspice, an AI agent, simulation-result inspection, and compensation-parameter tuning.

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    Apple’s requested injunction could affect OpenAI hardware work, including a rumored screenless AI device.

Apple has submitted new evidence in its trade-secrets case involving OpenAI, alleging former Apple engineer Chang Liu used a confidential circuit schematic in OpenAI work, automated part of the analysis with an AI agent, and sought to have evidence destroyed.

The August 31 submission supports Apple’s request for expedited discovery and an injunction barring OpenAI from using its trade secrets. Apple filed the case in July against Liu and former Apple executive Tang Tan, alleging they used Apple data after joining OpenAI.

A laptop, a schematic and a simulation

Apple says forensic analysis of a company MacBook that Liu retained after leaving found evidence of unauthorized access to Apple information and efforts to conceal that activity. Apple alleges Liu downloaded the circuit schematic in March, two months after leaving the company, then used it in his OpenAI work.

According to Apple’s filing, Liu used the schematic in LTspice, an electrical-engineering simulation tool, for power-conversion development. Apple further alleges that he trained an AI agent to run LTspice, inspect results and tune a compensation parameter.

Other allegations in Apple’s submission

  • After learning of Apple’s internal investigation, Liu allegedly instructed an OpenAI colleague to destroy evidence. Apple says the colleague confirmed she would comply.
  • Apple alleges Liu and others at OpenAI knew about his unauthorized access to Apple third-party cloud storage.
  • Apple also alleges Liu used an OpenAI tool with the same name as an internal Apple engineering application.

The immediate fight is over access and use

Apple wants to investigate a Mac mini and other devices still in Liu’s possession, saying the Mac mini synced with the recovered MacBook. Apple says the new material shows its trade secrets remain in active use and that evidence is being destroyed.

Apple’s requested injunction would prevent OpenAI from using its trade secrets. Apple has also sought to halt OpenAI hardware-development efforts, including work on a rumored screenless AI-driven device.

OpenAI seeks dismissal

OpenAI has asked the court to dismiss the lawsuit, calling Apple’s allegations meritless. The company said it does not have or want Apple’s trade secrets. The October hearing is the next scheduled step in a dispute over whether Apple can obtain faster access to the devices and records it seeks.

Sources

  1. macrumors.comApple Says Former Engineer Used Stolen Trade Secrets at OpenAI, Taught AI Agent to Run Them
  2. geeky-gadgets.comThe ChatGPT Siri Honeymoon is Officially Over: Apple vs. OpenAI Explained